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234 – Toby Ball and Strange Arrivals S2

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MonsterTalk Podcast
#234 – Toby Ball – Strange Arrivals
Guest: Toby Ball
Hosted by Blake Smith and Karen Stollznow

Notable Quotes

“This is my opinion, but I don’t think I’m alone thinking this, that there is an agenda in a lot of ufologists to undermine scientific materialism. They really don’t like it. They want to reject it. And if they can get wide acceptance that all of these strange things are real, then therefore scientific materialism can’t stand up to that. And therefore, it’ll collapse and something else can be built.” – Blake Smith

“If you look at the whole thing as a giant phenomenon, it’s just like ghosts. UFOs become an explanation for everything that you don’t understand.” Blake Smith

“I think what’s really interesting about ufology, and I hate to kind of make an exact comparison, but I think it’s, it’s similar to like spiritualism from back in the eighties. It’s like, ‘What is all this telling you about the world that you’re living in at the time?’” – Toby Ball

Episode Summary

Blake and Karen speak with Toby Ball, author and host of the Strange Arrivals, a podcast that presents a historical UFO event within a social and scientific context. They deep dive not just on the UFO phenomenon, but also on ufology, aspects of which Blake has strong feelings about, as he ardently shows throughout this episode.

Relevant Links

Strange Arrivals Podcast http://apple.co/strangearrivals

Rendlesham Forest incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident

Art Bell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell

Project Blue Book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Book

J. Allen Hynek https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Allen_Hynek

Mirage Men Documentary trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfR18lm4ADs

Mick West’s website https://www.metabunk.org/home/

The Secret of Bigfoot: Part 1 (The Six Million Dollar Man episode) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073677/

MonsterTalk 221 – Sarah Scoles

Some notes about Blake’s rant re: UFOs, UAPs, NYTs and NDEs

How Washington Got  Hooked on Flying Saucers by Jason Colavito

Also by Jason – a blog post about UFOs, TTSA, and media coverage of these Bigelow-adjacent figures

The NYT article that kicked this current media blitz off.

Art Bell’s AREA 2000 on Archive.org 

In this Episode of MonsterTalk

Introducing Toby

 Discussing the Rendlesham Forest Case

Blake on current UAP phenomenon and media coverage

Project Blue Book: Sign, Grudge, the Robertson Panel, and J. Allen Hynek

“Weird-washing” and anti-materialism among ufologists

 Art Bell’s Area 2000 and the Bigelow Foundation

Toby’s idea behind the new season of Strange Arrivals

 Richard Doty, Paul Benowitz, and strategic disinformation within the UFO community

 The Disclosure movement

Strange Arrivals episode details, and Toby’s favorite monster(s)

Toby on why ufology is important

 Farewells

Catch Toby Ball on Twitter

Toby Ball’s website http://www.tobyball.com/